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My great-grandmother was Alice Edna Baker Southcombe of Morris, Grundy Co, IL. Her mother was Leah Jane Hampton Baker. Her father was Daniel Elias Hampton. His mother was Elizabeth Jane Sims Hampton. Information about her siblings has been mostly a mystery to me until today. I went searching in the censuses and I found most of them and some of them ended up in Lawrence Co, IL. The family history indicates that these are her siblings. I don't have documentation (other than a written family history) that these are her siblings and their families. And some of the family history has been proven wrong. However, the names of parents and children of these families closely matches the family history. So, I feel confident at least to reproduce the written family history here for any other researchers primarily of Luzerne Co, PA families that relocated to Lawrence Co, IL sometime around 1850. I will reproduce a transcript (as well as I am able) of the written family history in the post directly after this one.

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This is a copy of the Sims family history which was written by Clyde Baker, brother of my great-grandmother, Alice Edna Baker Southcombe. Some of it has been proven to be incorrect.

"Sims Family History" by Clyde Baker

Whipple came from England in 1700, had three daughters.

His daughter, Sarah, married Dan Sims from Prussia, they had five boys and six girls.

Nathan married Betsy Dill -- 14 children

Jerry married Miss Malone -- two boys

Bill married Sally Ann Sarner -- 12 children

Zuras married Catherine Arnold -- 2 boys, 5 girls, (Aunt Julie's folks)

Cyrus never married.

Polly married Elias Hampton -- no children

Elizabeth married James Sylvester Hampton -- girl, 4 boys

Jane married Jacob Shoup -- 3 boys, 3 girls

Margaret married Henry Bellas -- 2 boys, 3 girls

Ann, not married

Esther married Abraham Arnold -- 3 boys, 3 girls




Nathan married 3 times: 1) Malinda, Mary, George, John; 2) Lizzie, Barb Sills, Elijah, Sarah Sills

Jerry Sims: John, Cyrus

Bill Sims: Bill, Hezekiah

Jane Shoup: Sarah, Malinda, Barnett, Will, George, Mary Ann

Zura Sims: Jane, Nancy, Elizabeth, Simon, Julia, Catherine

Elizabeth Hampton: Girl died in infancy, Sylvester James, Daniel Elias, Martin, John

Esther Arnold: Zura, Tamer, Mary, George, John, Jane

Margaret Bellas: Mary, Cyrus, Zura, Jane, Ann, Malinda




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Here is some of the census research I found today that seems to tie in these siblings. These are the short versions.

1830, Newport Twp, Luzerne Co, PA
Daniel Sims
1 male age 40-50
1 female age 40-50
1 male age 15-20
1 female age 15-20
1 male age 10-15
3 females age 10-15
2 males age 5-10
1 female age 5-10
1 female under 5

1840, Newport Twp, Luzerne Co, PA
Daniel Sims
1 male age 50-60
1 female age 50-60
1 male age 15-20
1 female age 15-20
1 male age 10-15
1 male age 5-10

1850 Newport Twp, Luzerne Co, PA
Daniel Simms, 60, Farmer, b. PA
Sarah Simms, 61, b. PA

Neighbors to the following:
Abram Arnold, 55, Value of Real Estate=500, Farmer, b. PA
Elizabeth Arnold, 41, b. PA
Jacob Arnold, 16, Farmer, b. PA
Rebecca Arnold, 14, b. PA
William Arnold, 7, b. PA
Susan Arnold, 4, b. PA
Mary Arnold, 59, b. PA
Martha Arnold, 1, b. PA
Esther Arnold, 24, b. PA
James Daugherty, 29, Labourerer, b. PA

Also in Newport Twp, Luzerne Co, PA but not neighbors to the above are the following:
Henry Bellas, 32, Labourer, b. PA
Margaret Bellas, 30, b. PA
Mary E. Bellas, 5 mths, b. PA

1850 Batavia, Kane Co, IL
James Hampton, 39, Farmer, b. NY
Elizabeth Hampton, 36, b. PA
James S. Hampton, 16, Farmer, b. NY
Daniel Hampton, 13, b. PA

1850 Marion Twp, Hancock Co, OH
Jacob Shoup, 32, Labourer, b. OH
Jane Shoup, 30, b. PA
Sarah Shoup, 7, b. OH
Melinda Shoup, 6, b. OH
Mary Ann Shoup, 5, b. OH
Lyman Shoup, 2, b. OH
William Henry Shoup, 3 mths, b. OH

1850 Lawrence Co, IL. The following are neighbors in this order:

James French, 38, Blacksmith, Value of Real Estate = 3,000, b. OH
Elizabeth French, 38, b. KY
Hosia French, 13, b. IL
Angeline French, 11, b. IL
Bascom French, 7, b. IL
Eliza French, 4, b. IL
Emaline French, 9, b. IL
James French, 5 mths, b. IL

B. F. Malone, 42, Farmer, Value of Real Estate = 1,500, b. KY
Isabella Malone, 40, b. KY
Eliza Malone, 12, b. IL
Catharine Malone, 10, b. IL
Horace W. Malone, 5, b. IL
John Malone, 4, b. IL
Delia Malone, 9 mths, b. IL

Jeremiah Simms, 26, Farmer, Value of Real Estate = 200, b. PA
Mary E. Simms, 17, b. IL

William French, 20, Farmer, b. IL
Nancy French, 19, b. OH
Henrietta French, 3, b. IL

Theodore French, 60, Value of Real Estate = 2,000, b. MA
Elizabeth Wilson, 19, b. IL
Chauncey French, 12, b. IL
Sarah Worley, 9, b. IL

Also in Lawrence Co, IL but not neighbors to the above is the following:

William Simms, 30, Farmer, Value of Real Estate = 240, b. PA
Sarah Ann Simms, 23, b. PA
Hezekiah Simms, 4, b. PA
William Simms, 1, b. PA

Some years ago I connected with another researcher who was connected to both the French and Shoup families. So, I believe there is a connection with the French families and their neighbors in Lawrence Co, IL. By the 1860 census Jacob and Jane Shoup also relocated to Lawrence Co, IL (Lukin Twp).

It looks like some of the written Sims family history may actually be correct. However, I still don't have documentation that these are the siblings of my Elizabeth Jane Sims Hampton. The ages, dates and locations seem to fit but I am wondering if there was ever any correspondence or other documentation that would tie her to the Sims and related families of Lawrence Co, IL.

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Sorry I made a mistake when I posted the family of Abram Arnold in the 1850 census of Newport Twp, Luzerne Co, PA. Please insert the following person between Elizabeth Arnold, age 41 and Jacob Arnold, age 16 :

Abram Arnold, 29, Farmer, b. PA

Sorry again for the omission of this very important person in this puzzle.

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I am descended from Zura Sims and Catherine Arnold through their son Simon Sims and have done a lot of research on the family. Feel free to contact me at cdmclaughlin at comcast dot net.

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Gary Baker

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Alice and Clyde are my aunt and uncle.

I've spent some time trying to make sense of this and other "Baker" genealogy.  I haven't contacted Barry Jernigan in awhile, but he seems to be working on this too.  
This and another lead ties us to the Mayflower, but so far too many holes to fill.  I hope we can finish putting all of this together.


Contact me at gary-baker@uiowa.edu if you want.  I'm working on the Rev Thomas Baker in RI, now.

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